Monday, May 02, 2005

 

Rap vs Hip Hop

This is an old argument that haunts Hip Hop. I'm only bringing this up because I got an email from Cornerstone promoting a Hip Hop week on MTV. I went and checked it out, but only saw popular commercial rap artist on it. Where's the Hip Hop! The artist there featuring has some Hip Hop elements in their music, but there not 100% Hip Hop.

I know that, probably everyone who reads this blog is up on what Hip Hop is, but in case you don't. Hip Hop is a culture that was created in the late 1970's to counter the gang violence that was happening in the streets of New York City. Under privileged youth, which were predominantly Black and Hispanic, created a dance style (B-Boying) that came from numerous dances. At the same time, Disc Jockys like Kool Herc, Grand Master Flash and Grand Wizard Theodore, were mixing certain breaks in records that these B-Boys AKA Break-Boys, where Break Dancing comes from, would dance too. During this incredible spectacular, you had Emcees, who host the parties, rapping and shouting out the crowd over these breaks. Graffiti art, which was already bubbling in New York, was incorporated into this growing culture. B-Boys, DJ's and Emcees would have graffiti artist paint something on their jacket, pants, shirts, hats and what ever they were feeling at the time, to show appreciation for the culture. If you would like a deeper explanation of what Hip Hop is, respond to this comment with your questions. I first experienced the culture in the late seventies in the Bronx so I have a fair idea of what Hip Hop is and I definitely know what it isn't, and that's high paid commercial rappers. This 20 + years of Hip Hop culture is a lot more than that.

Peace


Comments:
True, the high paid rappers aren't all what hip-hop is, but aren't they a part of hip-hop just like you and me?

Can we exclude them just becuase they're popular?
 
Hip Hop, like any successful meme, evolves relative to its enviroment. Introduce New York Hip Hop to Detroiters & the meme mixes with a culture unlike the culture-base it enjoyed in New York. The result is grossly different.

High-paid commercial rappers are an evolved type/result of the Hip Hop meme. The high-paid commercial rapper doesn't represent what Hip Hop is in its entirety anymore than I represent what Humanity is. Yet, in my own gross way, I am still a member of Humanity--despite any disagreement from my rigidly purist neighbors.
 
I didn't exclude them out of Hip Hop. I said they have Hip Hop elements to them but don't represent the entire culture. If Mtv is promoting something called "Hip Hop week", then I think they should represent more than commercial rappers. They already get enough light, give the rest of Hip Hop some light.
 
I agree what Jab said. I feel--and i use the words "I feel" becuase of rap artists out there--that if a majority of the tracks on your album promotes violence and drug distribution, whether it be of past or fabricated actions, then that alone excludes you from the music genre of hip-hop. Plain and Simple. Hip- hop is about community and alleviation from that b.s... Wake up people, murderers are not human neither are child molesters... we classify them as criminals and herd them into an environment better than 3rd world countries.

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THIS IS TRUE... BUT THEN WHY IS THERE A POSTER OF 50 CENT's ALBUM "GET RICH OR DIE TRYIN" IN FAT BEATS LA? fukin mainstream shit
 
OMG...man i'm so glad that i can see eye-to-eye with someone on this whole situation. Today when i was a school i got into the biggest arguement with someone, about what hip hop was. i mean i might be young but i know what hip hop is. it's a way of life. and i was telling him how rap is nothing positive usually and how they talk about sex, money, drugs, and girls. and how hip hop was real; talking about everyday struggles that we go through and how the world needs a change. i dont know why i get so upset when it comes to this but i do. when someone is trying to tell me that 50 cent is hip hop i get fired up. i do understand how rap is a part of hip hop but they are so different at the same time. Rap is a 'mirage' an 'illusion' of hip hop...trying to appear the same when it really isn't. but yeah that's just how i see it.
 
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I agree 100% with that article. Hip hop is not about a rapper with money cars clothes and hoes. It a way of expressing a feeling or to exploit some political views of the world. It was the first way that black people could openly express how they felt about our unequal treatment. It was one of those things that was so blunt no one could turn their cheek to it. People have fucked hip hop over and turned it into something negative and ugly when it was meant to heal the black culture. I agree with Common in the song " I used to love her" because people have changed the meaning of hip hop. To me there is a difference between hip hoppers and rappers, a very big difference.
 
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